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    (Open) FBX Import Issues, ways to improve, and other things...

    Hopefully this link will be enough to describe the issues I've been having?

    Basic problem is, an FBX file of a facility (apologies, can't give the data out to anyone)... which is 500 surfaces, and just under 10,000 objects, is really tough to deal with in Lightwave, both Modeller and Layout. The actual polygon count isn't crazy high, and in fact, when merged into one layer, with one surface, it's smooth as silk, but it's getting to that point that is hard work.

    Basically, what I'm after are some options on import that will:

    1. Allow us to merge (using an import option when we choose the FBX file) all identical surfaces into a single surface. Rather than iterating them, and adding '01', '02', '03'... ...
    On the model above, it ended up generating over 5000 surfaces. no wonder LW was struggling so much. If this was implemented, there would have been far, far less materials... and made it faster within Layout and Modeller.

    This would most likely solve all the issues I've been struggling through within the post linked above.


    2. A way on import that will let us choose to merge ALL surfaces into a just a SINGLE surface. This will help us on models that still don't import with the option in point 1 above.

    3. FBX loading within Layout wrote all 10,000 objects very quickly BUT only when it was doing this onto the local drive). When doing it to our network location it was APPALLINGLY SLOW! This may be a network issue, but we simulate FumeFX and TurbulenceFD over the network and save the files directly out to a network location, and it's very fast. We're on a fast gigbit connection.

    4. Loading the Layout scene file, with 10,000 .lwo files starts off VERY fast, but then slows down to a painful speed... so much so, that I didn't even wait for it to finish loading. It had already taken well over an hour and a half, and wasn't anywhere near done. Again, this may be due to the sheer volume of surfaces (5000) or something else that needs looking at?

    I hope this thread and report can help you nail some of these issues!

    Lardbros on the forum!

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      71162 Flocking .fcache files not saving .fcache extension properly Closed 6/16/2014 12:10 PM
      70701 FiberFX - Bundle Controls - Bundle unravels using strength amount... Open 5/27/2014 3:43 PM
      70617 PFX file forgets 'Rotation' setting... Closed 5/22/2014 1:38 PM
      70616 Flocking & .PFX file extension issue Closed 5/22/2014 1:27 PM
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      69923 Match Perspective Camera or Light just Clones the selected Closed 4/22/2014 4:03 PM
      69691 Re: Internal Beta... Closed 4/9/2014 2:12 PM
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      69159 FBX Import... please allow merging of objects and surfaces! Closed 3/13/2014 5:15 PM
      69156 Track Editor? Above the timeline... paste keys is wrong (bug)? Closed 3/13/2014 4:40 PM
      69155 Graph Editor pasting keys, random behaviour! Open 3/13/2014 4:28 PM
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      68935 Mouse jumps ALL over the place in Layout Closed 3/3/2014 7:08 AM
      68684 3d Connexion drivers don't work Closed 2/19/2014 12:53 PM
      66365 When using 3dConnexion device... locked items shouldn't move!! Closed 10/10/2013 3:05 PM
      66364 Maintain the Same Surface names during FBX import Closed 10/10/2013 2:43 PM
      66362 Color Picker enhancement? Closed 10/10/2013 2:18 PM
      60472 Re: Compositing Buffer Export - Incorrect Colour Space when using LWSN.exe BUILD: 2519 Closed 5/20/2013 3:17 PM
      60471 Better Support for 3dsMax to LW, and LW to 3dsMax Open 5/20/2013 3:01 PM
      60467 Weight maps in bullet for Glue and distance breakage... difficult to visualise, do they even work?!?!??!!! Open 5/20/2013 2:25 PM
      56863 Dielectric Material Node different in VPR to Render... Closed 2/17/2013 9:51 AM
      56646 Node editor 'type-in' filter, doesn't restore filtered items when closing and re-opening the editor Open 2/13/2013 8:06 AM
      56645 When Node Editor 'Type-In' filter has text in it, the drop-down list doesn't work. Open 2/13/2013 7:59 AM
      52027 Loading scene with 3500 objects... major speed issues on load Open 10/22/2012 7:00 AM
      51668 FBX Import Issues, ways to improve, and other things... Open 10/14/2012 7:16 AM
      50920 Phostoshop import node... and choice of layers/groups as output options. Open 9/26/2012 6:51 AM
      50225 3dConnexion defaults pretty poor... Open 9/12/2012 10:19 AM
      50156 Fracture tool in Modeller, please alter the functionality slightly? Open 9/11/2012 12:47 PM
      50121 Refining/speeding up workflows with Bullet dynamics... Open 9/11/2012 7:10 AM
      42830 Compositing Buffer issues with file paths???? But not sure. Open 12/22/2011 4:50 AM
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      42765 Radiosity Cache... crash on render :o( Closed 12/20/2011 4:50 PM
      41853 Fracture, when set to halves, crashes after multiple undo's and re-applies Closed 11/12/2011 8:10 AM
      41852 Fracture tool, set to 'halves' doesn't preserve original mesh Closed 11/12/2011 8:05 AM
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      41623 Crazy RAM usage... in scene that contains 200mb of textures. Closed 10/30/2011 10:55 AM
      41622 Please can the 3ds Importer remember settings during the session? Open 10/30/2011 10:47 AM
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      40962 Graph editor bugs - Copy and move keys removes some keys... weird Closed 9/14/2011 2:30 PM
      40960 Graph Editor Bugs - Lines aren't straight between vertical keys... Open 9/14/2011 2:16 PM
      40880 VPR updates FAR too often, when it should remain refining... Closed 9/7/2011 8:12 AM
      40879 Editing Surfaces inside Node Editor don't update VPR if the Surface Editor is closed Closed 9/7/2011 8:06 AM
      40878 Editing Gradients in node editor - VPR only updates on pressing 'UPDATE' in Node Editor Closed 9/7/2011 8:02 AM
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      39654 VPR & Skin Shader... odd behaviours with 'Raytrace Refraction & Transparency' OFF Closed 6/30/2011 7:18 AM
      39329 Mouse position not moving when sliding timeline, brushing guides and moving keyframes in dopetrack! Closed 6/16/2011 3:34 PM
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      39124 Model repeatedly crashes Modeller on loading Closed 6/3/2011 7:09 PM
      39118 Feedback Agent, needs all mail settings to be input, please sort this out!!! Open 6/3/2011 2:20 PM
      39097 Add curl and taper functionality to Fibers in FiberFX Layout Tool! Open 6/2/2011 8:25 AM
      38467 VPR Preview doesn't work on maximised viewports other than top-left... Closed 5/9/2011 5:00 PM
      38391 Skin Shader issues with Content Material: ZBrushHead (ZBrush_Head.lws) Closed 5/6/2011 6:12 AM
      38028 Editing Menu Layouts in Layout & Modeller... poor feature/bug Closed 4/18/2011 1:47 PM
      37742 Adjusting Camera Focal Length/Zoom doesn't correctly update in Graph Editor... Closed 3/30/2011 12:46 PM
      37370 Taking inspiration from HDR Light Studio Pro v2.0... and re-create this ability within LW! Open 3/11/2011 12:03 PM
      37369 Baking textures toolkit! Open 3/11/2011 11:59 AM
      37368 Crash when clicking on 'memory blocks - configuration' in the Hub Closed 3/11/2011 11:52 AM
      37367 Crash on clicking ffx Modeller plugins in the 'Additional' Tab Closed 3/11/2011 11:48 AM
      37231 Double-click .lwo or .lws causes errors when used to open Modeller or Layout Closed 3/6/2011 8:50 AM
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      35463 Choosing layer 2 as a background layer causes hang... but no detectable crash Closed 12/9/2010 4:48 PM
      35383 Fw: LightWave Feedback Agent: Exception in LightWave Closed 12/8/2010 1:49 PM
      35251 RC1 - Volume Lights not working in VPR when 'Affect Diffuse' and 'Affect Spec' are turned off... Closed 12/6/2010 2:30 PM
      35214 VPR Volume Shadows render errors Closed 12/5/2010 8:24 AM
      34487 Constant Crashing with ATI drivers... 10.8 and 10.10 Closed 11/8/2010 4:39 PM
      34478 Playback pausing when move tool active... Open 11/8/2010 2:19 PM
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      34476 HDRI images not loading into CORE backdrop shader Closed 11/8/2010 1:55 PM
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      33761 Flickering textures and meshes in Opengl... Closed 9/25/2010 2:31 AM
      33458 CORE - Grid Disappearing Closed 9/7/2010 4:51 PM
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      31958 Right-click menus (and other menus in general) not appearing until mouse movement. Open 6/30/2010 2:06 PM
      31957 Right-click menus (and other menus in general) not appearing until mouse movement. Closed 6/30/2010 2:05 PM
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      31954 Middle mouse button as pan Closed 6/30/2010 1:24 PM
      31953 Crash on moving perspective camera. Open 6/30/2010 1:22 PM
      31952 Bullet Dynamics slower than previous releases... Open 6/30/2010 1:13 PM
      31441 Crash on close of CORE no matter what... Open 6/2/2010 5:15 PM
      31293 Bug with Photoreal motion blur causing rendering artifacts on HARDFX animation... Open 5/26/2010 6:22 AM
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      30017 Render passes... a proper and solid solution... Open 3/17/2010 4:49 PM
      30016 Render Buffer Export/View... rendering shadows??! Closed 3/17/2010 4:41 PM
      28734 Re: VPR Rendering: Not updating on changing some surface/material attributes Closed 1/25/2010 4:30 PM
      28728 Re: Mouse wheel makes viewport UI move slightly... Closed 1/25/2010 3:40 PM
      28377 Re: OpenGl errors in Modeller using ATI Radeon Mobility HD 4670 1gb Closed 1/7/2010 5:51 AM
      28376 Re: Opengl errors with Modeller and ATI Mobility HD 4670 1GB Closed 1/7/2010 5:47 AM
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      27399 Make the dockable panels have a switch on them to orient them horizontally or vertically. Closed 11/24/2009 4:39 PM
      27043 Layers system... please can we have 'layers within layers' back again? Closed 11/10/2009 11:43 AM
      25562 An idea for alternative layer browsing, on top of the current one. Closed 9/15/2009 3:12 PM
      18613 Re: Taking an age to 'pre-process' the render. Closed 11/21/2008 8:55 AM
      18387 Re: Radiosity errors when changing RPE Value by 1 digit. Closed 11/14/2008 6:51 PM
      17986 Crash when closing 'Edit Modeller Tools' in Modeller Closed 11/2/2008 4:59 PM
      17745 FFX and odd growth on a cube Closed 10/27/2008 6:44 PM
      17743 Re: FFX Guides grey when above grid, black when below. Closed 10/27/2008 6:21 PM
      17495 Scene crashes upon loading. Includes FFX, which causes the problem Closed 10/19/2008 4:17 AM
      17475 Real Lens Camera Open 10/18/2008 7:05 AM
      17244 Save animation tick box not saved with scene Closed 10/11/2008 4:41 AM
      17130 LightWave Feedback Agent: Exception in LightWave (FiberFX causing crashes during render sequence) Closed 10/8/2008 5:23 PM
      17120 Feature Request, Handles and mouse act oddly when clicking and dragging. Explained below. Open 10/8/2008 12:23 PM
      17093 LightWave Feedback Agent: Exception in LightWave Closed 10/7/2008 5:50 PM
      16941 LightWave Feedback Agent: Exception in LightWave Closed 10/2/2008 1:39 AM
      16713 LightWave Feedback Agent: Exception in LightWave Closed 9/25/2008 2:22 PM
      16470 LightWave Feedback Agent: Exception in LightWave Closed 9/20/2008 6:16 AM
      16463 FiberFX, has issues with compositing still! Closed 9/19/2008 7:26 PM
      16418 Package Scene causes problems when .mdd files have been used. Closed 9/18/2008 12:45 PM
      16415 LightWave Feedback Agent: Exception in LightWave Closed 9/18/2008 12:33 PM
      15237 Black Squares in FFX render! Closed 8/3/2008 10:38 AM
      15236 Scene crashes upon loading! Closed 8/3/2008 10:03 AM
      15036 Crash upon scene loading. BUILD 1431 Closed 7/25/2008 11:29 AM
      13944 FiberFX needs better tools/options for making the hair droop at the ends or at the roots etc. and also make this animatable?? Open 6/7/2008 12:15 PM
      13943 Fiber FX and bad randomisation of gravity when using the fiberfilter only Closed 6/7/2008 12:05 PM
      12874 MultiThreaded Fiber FX Rendering? Open 4/22/2008 6:59 PM
      12327 FiberFX loses some colour swatch between saving and then re-loading a file. Renders of hair come out blue or green. Closed 4/9/2008 5:50 PM
      12322 Object Clipping doesn't work as expected in Modellers FiberFX panel Closed 4/9/2008 3:17 PM
      12321 Increasing Fibers in Modeller FiberFX tool, slider not sensitive enough when going up, but too sensitive when going down! Closed 4/9/2008 3:11 PM
      12320 Render Selected Objects does not work with FFX objects Closed 4/9/2008 2:50 PM
      12291 Layout messes up layer details when Layers are renamed in Modeller. Closed 4/8/2008 7:12 PM
      12190 Cryengine 2 exporter! Open 4/4/2008 12:53 PM
      12144 How about the preview system for Fiber FX has a percentage of hairs visible in viewport rather than all of them? Open 4/2/2008 3:35 PM
      12048 Fiber FX has tigering/hyena type hair when rendering with Fiber Smooth above 1 or self shadow lowered from 100% Closed 3/30/2008 5:51 AM
      12045 FiberFX loses some colour swatch between saving and then re-loading a file. Renders of hair come out blue or green. Closed 3/30/2008 5:22 AM
      11971 LightWave Feedback Agent: Exception in LightWave Closed 3/28/2008 4:23 AM
      11896 LightWave Feedback Agent: Exception in LightWave Closed 3/27/2008 2:51 PM
      9314 Able to set more options as the default for Lightwave startup Open 10/24/2007 1:06 PM
      9313 Presets for GI/ Rendering in general! Open 10/24/2007 1:02 PM
      4752 Lightwave, Layout OpenGL VERY VERY slow when using more than 1 viewport. Closed 4/16/2007 1:35 PM
      4174 Pressing enter (numeric keypad) doesn't always take you to the next logical numeric entry box?? Closed 3/25/2007 7:54 AM
      3760 Lightwave Modeller! Some sort of 3d widget for poly, point, edge, manipulation Closed 3/11/2007 8:24 AM